Our impression of this campground was that they do not do any maintenance. The laundry room was filthy (floors, washers, counter) and the lock on the door is missing altogether, so they close the door with a large rock on the floor. The campsites are uneven. They have a restaurant with entertainment (college students), but their prices are high. The trains and highway close by make it a noisy place to stay. In addition, tractor trailer trucks park overnight next door and run their loud generators all night. We will not return to Black Bart's and do not recommend it. We camped here in a Motorhome.

We stayed four nights. The sites were semi-level. The interior roads were very bumpy with potholes. The campground and restaurant share the bathroom/shower. The restaurant has tour busses which use the bathroom, leaving it crowded and dirty. It was not cleaned the entire time we were there, as proved by the debris in the same places each day. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.

We stopped here so we could have dinner at the restaurant; good steak and entertainment. But the RV park was awful. Very hard to get level on any of the sites. The laundry was filthy. Lots of permanent residents, and not much maintenance being done. We camped here in a Motorhome.

This is a great "dry camping" type campground in the cool pines. Located about 10 miles north of Flagstaff on Hwy 89. Campground is adjacent to the Sunset Crater Visitor Center. The $9 rate reflects Golden age pass otherwise $18 night without the pass. Sites and roadways are all paved. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.

This is a beautiful, well maintained National Forest Service Campground adjacent to Sunset Crater Volcano and Wupatki National Monuments. Sites are very large with lots of space between them. There are pull-along sites for very large rigs. Restrooms only, no showers. Ice and firewood are available. Good paved roads; concrete paths to restrooms and around picnic tables. Across road from Sunset Crater Volcano Visitor Center (16 miles north of Flagstaff on US-89). We camped here in a Motorhome.

Pinegrove is one of our favorite places. Lots of shade from the numerous Pine trees, easy to access level sites, and the sites can be reserved. Various hiking trails and fishing close by. It is only open between May - Oct and a favorite place for people wanting to get away from the heat as the campground is at approx. 7000 elevation. It would rate a 10 if it had full hook ups. It does have an easily accessible dump site, clean flush toilets, and showers. It is managed by US Forest Service Paid Volunteers (camp hosts). Most of the time these hosts are friendly and helpful and check on visitors regularly, however this stay the camp hosts were unfriendly and avoided contact. You had to hunt them down to get any assistance at all. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.

This is a National Forest Campground maintained by volunteer concessionaires. They were very friendly and prompt when campground or visitor attention was required. There are no hookups and generator quiet hours are from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m., but there is fresh water for tank filing and a convenient dump station. There are many lakes, trails, and sites to see within a minutes by car. I have found a new favorite campsite! We camped here in a Motorhome.

Stayed in this park back in 2005 and thought it to need freshening up. Well, someone else thought so too and this June stopped to only stay a night but the park is groomed, many neat setting areas through out with a work kamper staff that is fantastic. We stayed for several nights relaxing, found great little pizza place near college and the lovely smell of the pines with the cool nights was delightful. Hard to leave to the heat of the plains states and humidity of the southeast. Yes we will return even being a big pricey, but Flagstaff is a unique place everyone must visit. We camped here in a Motorhome.

I previously avoided this park when they charged for internet access, but internet access is now free, and works well. Check-in staff was very friendly, helpful, and quick. The only problem was that they were so quick that the people escorting campers to sites couldn't keep up, so there was a small delay in getting to camp. Even they were extra friendly, even taking the time to wipe off the faucet (and brag about their great tasting water). We camped here in a Motorhome.

Sites definitely not for big rigs. Talked with two other campers who had problems getting rig in. Both, like me, scraped trees with their rigs. We were all guided in by employees of the park and still had great problems. Easier getting out...thank goodness. If I were to return to this area, I would look for a different park that is more accessible with my size rig. Very close to traffic. You hear it quite a bit and trains all night. On a good note. Park is beautiful. Employees are very nice. Kids loved the playground. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.

Low mark because this this campground has few facilities, no washrooms, no laundry, no internet, no cable, and not cheap. They also charge extra if you want to use AC or electric heat. The park has mostly seasonal residents. The KOA just down the road is a little nicer.On the plus side, the host was friendly and gave some good sightseeing advice, and there is access to trails from the park. We camped here in a Motorhome.

The manager here is quite friendly and helpful. He even has a card posted on the door of the office with a note stating his phone number and to contact him if he is needed after office hours. The park has many Ponderosa pines providing shade, and does have 50 amp service available. However, there are some negatives. Our site was roomy but very uneven. Sites are confusingly and somewhat haphazardly arranged. Sites and roads are a mixture of gravel and dirt, which would be sure to be muddy in wet weather. Cable TV and Wi-Fi are not available, although there is a coffee shop next door that does have Wi-Fi. Sadly, the scenic value of the pines is almost nullified by the overwhelming number of dilapidated trailers and motorhomes, apparently belonging to dozens of full time or part time residents of the park. We camped here in a Motorhome.

We spent two nights here and found it to be pleasant, well maintained and very quiet. The Manager was very helpful. He found us a long pull-thru site to accomodate our 40' motorhome along with our 20' car trailer. He also arranged to have our propane tank filled, since the delivery was scheduled for a day we were there. The roads are paved and quite narrow, but we were able to drive the big rig and trailer to and from our site with no problems. We camped here in a Motorhome.

The reason we went to this campground was that the bathrooms were rated a 9.5 and I needed to wash my hair. I was very disappointed in the showers! There were only two, they were small, the shower head was tiny and placed very low, and it just was not worth a 9.5 rating at all! The campground has a 10:00 o'clock curfew, which is ridiculous for adults. We wanted to go out to hear some live music Saturday night, but it didn't start until 9:00 pm and we knew we would not be able to be back by 10:00, so we were unable to go. We went to the TV room to watch TV instead and sit on their big, comfortable sofa, but were kicked out at 9:00 pm so they could lock the doors. The park rules are printed on the back of the campground map and we didn't read them until after 6:00. The office closes at 6:00 pm so we could not go ask about staying out past 10:00 pm. The park was clean and neat, but it is located a ways outside the town, so it's not very convenient. We camped here in a Motorhome.

Nice park with level sites, shade trees but close-packed. Next site over was about 7 feet away. Sewer plug is right next to the concrete curb, so hard to get to sometimes. Lots of big Class As in the park, so we felt a mite small. The guy next to us left at 5:15 in the morning! So quiet hours are not necessarily observed. Highway noise from four-lane highway. Hard to see their sign because of local sign codes, I guess, so we missed it on first try. Fairly big pet area where they can be off the leash. Very pet-friendly with 3 "Dog Pots" with bag dispensers and trash bins. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.

The owners, JoAnn & Harvey Mickelson, were both very nice and attentive to our needs. The park is clean and entry/exit friendly. The only issue (minor) was street noise; we were in the site closest to AZ-89. I would highly recommend this park. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.

We knew we wanted to escape the heat this summer and thought what better place than in the cool Ponderosa Pines of Flagstaff, Arizona. One of my brothers lived in the area for awhile and loved it. Some very good friends of the family had stayed at Kit Carson RV Park and had very nice things to say about it. Our reservations were made during winter for a June through August stay. We're now three weeks into our stay and have not had a single positive experience with the park. Hang onto your RV's steering wheel, here's where it starts to get ugly. * After pulling into the site and setting-up we were shocked, no pun intended, to discover that the site only has 30 amp electrical service. When making the reservation we specifically requested a 50 amp site. On check-in day we once again received assurance that the site has 50 amp electrical service. When we confronted the Manager, Pat, about the discrepancy she replied, "I'm legally blind, I made a mistake." Pat, and her sidekick Diane, proceeded to get nasty with us when we expressed our frustration with the situation. We agreed to try the site and see if it would work-out, if not, they would refund our money. * Our mail (like most full-time RVers) follows us from our home state to wherever we happen to be. Everyday for 8 days we checked with Pat to see if she had made a mail key for us. On the ninth day the heavens moved her to get the job done. Each day we checked with Pat we received a new sarcastic, nasty excuse. * The bulk of our mail arrives by Fedex on Tuesdays. Tuesday, June 17, 2008 we arrived at the office to collect our mail only to discover the office was closed while Diane took Pat to a doctor appointment. We continued to check back throughout the day until 5:00 - the office never opened. We were unable to retrieve our mail until Wednesday morning. Instead of an apology from Pat and Diane we received a snide remark. Later in the day after checking the Fedex website I found that our mail had been left outside the door of the office which sits on Route 66. * Dumping waste tanks is one of the not so pleasurable but necessary evils of a life in an RV. Friday, June 20, 2008 early in the evening our "black" tank was full; it was time to do the deed. Immediately I knew we had a problem. Waste water, raw sewage, was leaking from around the hose that coupled to the parks sewage system. The situation grew worse very quickly - I won't gross you out with further details. I flagged down my parents and asked them to help. My mother found our family friend who tried to find staff from the park to help - no luck. We got the situation under control as best we could and I placed an urgent phone call to the office. I left a voice mail explaining the situation but was disappointed that there was no "in case of emergency" contact information offered. Eventually the Manager's home was found and she said she would alert the caretaker. We didn't hear from anyone Friday evening. When the office opened Saturday morning my parents were there to discuss the situation with Pat. She informed them that the situation would not be corrected until Monday when the plumber would be out. They asked about getting someone out over the weekend but Pat told them that wasn't going to happen. My Father told Pat that he was sure the Health Department would have something to say about that. Pat replied, "Do what you have to do." It's Sunday morning as I write this - we're still leaking raw sewage. * Rules of the park are unenforced. Pat's "management style" is neglect. Several of the park models have tarps erected at various places that make the place look like a refugee tent city. There is no enforcement of site decoration rules. Loud dogs are commonplace. Many sites have more than two dogs (the limit imposed in the rules). Gatherings at campsites are very large and inconsiderate of the noise they create for neighbors. Kit Carson RV Park offers a beautiful setting in the Ponderosa Pines of Flagstaff, Arizona. It also offers the most unfriendly, uncaring, rude, ineffective, and inefficient management I've ever encountered in any business. We camped here in a Motorhome.

This park might have been a good park in it's day. That time has passed. Many of their electrical connections are broken and laying on the ground with exposed wiring. They have no water pressure. There was a significant amount of garbage laying around. We would NOT stay here again. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.

We have stayed here many times over the past few years. We love the heavy trees and sounds of Elk in the woods. The most friendly staff who always escort you to your site. This time we experienced something new. We all know there are some real bad people in the world but rarely a real bad RVer. We woke up to find some one stole our waste hose. Talk about low lifes. But it was a one time incident. I would go back again and again. Try the Campus Cafe in town. Great coffee drinks, great breakfast and lunch too. We camped here in a Motorhome.

We stayed at this campground due to the reviews I had read on this site before our trip. The staff was very friendly and they escort you to your site. You can even have pizza delivered to your camper! Can't comment on showers as we did not use them and can't comment on the pool as we did not see it. We would stay again for sure. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.